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RIAA Website Hacked
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CmdrTaco
on Mon Jan 21, 2008 09:43 AM
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from the maybe-someone-just-typed-rm--rf dept.
gattaca writes "A lack of security controls allowed hackers to "wipe" the Recording Industry Association of America's (RIAA) website on Sunday.
The existence of an SQL injection attack on the RIAA's site came to light via social network news site Reddit. Soon after hackers were making merry, turning the site into a blank slate, among other things.
The RIAA has restored RIAA.org, although whether it's any more secure than before remains open to question, TorrentFreak reports."
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Well (Score:5, Funny)
But, for some reason, I'm having a really hard time working up any real sense of moral outrage over it.
This probably makes me a bad, biased person.
C'est la vie!
Re:Well (Score:5, Insightful)
You can't really going around acting like an ass and then expect to be treated with respect by anyone, especially if your site is riddled with basic security problems like SQL injection. Next time, hire a Web developer who isn't a stupid fscktard before gallivanting around, suing everyone, their 80-year-old grandmothers and their 6-year old children into oblivion.
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Well-It's all relative. (Score:5, Insightful)
Well if we're going to use that excuse then why stop at web site defacement? Why not put out a contract on the heads of the music companies? After all "they had it coming". What's that? Society says it's not OK? So's copyright infringement and that's not stopping anyone. Why should this be any different?
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Re:Well-It's all relative. (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, well... You're not from Chicago.
They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way... Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that? I'm offering you a deal. Do you want this deal?
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Re:Well-It's all relative. (Score:5, Insightful)
Ummm... yes.
If someone escalates to lethal force with me, I will respond with lethal force and it will be very important to *win*. Therefore, yes, I will respond to a knife with a grenade launcher.
Hell, I say nuke them from orbit.
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Re:Well-It's all relative. (Score:5, Funny)
It's the only way to be sure.
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Nuke them from orbit. (Score:5, Funny)
Otherwise there's always the real possibility that they were able to take cover.
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Re:Nuke them from orbit. (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Well-It's all relative. (Score:5, Funny)
Sounds like the annual Cheney family reunion to me.
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Re:Well-It's all relative. (Score:5, Funny)
No, that's just not a good idea. I mean, if someone is coming at you with a knife, he's probably at very close range, so if you tried using a grenade launcher, you'd probably taking yourself out with him. (The range for splash damage is probably understated in most video games.) A shotgun or a submachinegun would be a far better choice.
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Murder by Fractions (Score:4, Funny)
I'm sure they have accumulated enough fractions by now to cover the members of the board, and maybe a few tiers of upper management too. Since they are the most compensated, they must be the most responsible, right?
NB. Tongue is firmly in cheek.
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Why wipe it? (Score:5, Funny)
Wonder if they would have started a lawsuit against themselves...
Re:Why wipe it? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Why wipe it? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:Why wipe it? (Score:5, Interesting)
I know it would never work. The judge would ph34r t3h ev1l h4xx0rz! But, if fun to dream isn't it?
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Re:Why wipe it? (Score:5, Insightful)
I suspect that the average person visits their favorite news site, gaming portal (like games.yahoo.com or legitgames.com or whatever), fark/digg/slashdot, and blogs of the different varieties. My wife will occasionally do searches for recipes, information on baby stuff, etc. We'll hit newegg.com, amazon.com, or other storefronts.
Am I wrong in my thinking that the average person would visit a site like mpaa.org, riaa.org, or other industry specific org sites? We all use tires to drive on, have you ever visited the site for Michelen or Dunlap tires? Do they have a trade org site that issues news, warnings, and user information regarding recalls/defects of certain tires? If so, I've never even considered searching it out.
My point is that very few people would see it to make it worth putting information touting your propaganda. However, if it was outrageous enough, perhaps it would make news and people might visit (by which time it would be too late, as the site would be fixed).
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You bring to mind an interesting point (Score:5, Interesting)
Nah, how about a bunch of press releases saying that "the RIAA was wrong to sue music fans for sharing songs therefore we are dropping all the charges" and then seeing if the judge would say that if it was a cracked site or the RIAA itself.
The linchpin of the RIAA's lawsuit factory rests on the supposition that an IP address is exactly identical to a person. What the IP address does is legally identical to a person doing it. That's their argument.
So, if their website were to be hacked, wouldn't that exact same rule apply to whatever content was there? Their IP address is legally the same as the person/corporation/entity who owns it, right? That IS their argument, after all.
So why not use that against them in a legal sense?
It would be brilliant. The RIAA lawyers when they were brought into court for whatever happened to be uploaded there would have to make the argument that an IP address DOES NOT equate to the owner of the IP address in order to defend themselves.
They'd have to make our argument for us, and in front of a judge.
You couldn't ask for a better precedent.
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I wouldn't have wiped... (Score:5, Funny)
It would've been funnier (Score:5, Interesting)
if they made innocuous little changes here and there, such as changing the words "do not support file-sharing" to "fully support file-sharing." It probably would've the RIAA much longer to realize they've been had, and I'm sure they would've gotten some interesting calls and e-mails :-D
Re:It would've been funnier (Score:5, Funny)
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ZOMG!!! (Score:2)
RIAA will use this (Score:5, Insightful)
While I hold little sympathy for RIAA in this matter, I would rather people found different and legal ways to thwart the RIAA's mission.
Re:RIAA will use this (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:RIAA will use this (Score:5, Interesting)
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You would think that (Score:2)
Or is it? (Score:4, Insightful)
RIAA may now turn their media machine to connect evil hackers with the pirate bay and try to put them in the same corner as child molesters and nazis.
What should have been hosted (Score:4, Funny)
How about a statement like this:
"The protections applied to this website were more robust than the Digital Rights Management that is applied to CDs DVDs and other forms of digital media. Yet even that didn't stop a determined individual. If this website were a CD, it would be leaked all over the internet, and once cracked, DRM simply becomes an impediment to the legitimate users."
At least they could have tried to make it relevant. However, it is quite possible that they didn't have all that much time or total access to the site. (though if you can erase something, I'm pretty sure that is as close to total access as you need) I'm not too familiar with databases and websites so I don't know how far they could go with it.
This gives reddit a bad name (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:This gives reddit a bad name (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:This gives reddit a bad name (Score:5, Insightful)
How's that the same? Reddit didn't report that the site was hacked, they reported that it can be hacked and how, and then somebody hacked it.
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Re:This gives reddit a bad name (Score:4, Interesting)
It is not my obligation to report it to the people who made the vulnerable software.
Your mentality is that of the DMCA.
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Re:This gives reddit a bad name (Score:5, Interesting)
The RIAA are among the least of those who deserve to have their property rights defended.
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Maybe the RIAA's New Plan Caused It (Score:3, Insightful)
Pics or GTFO (Score:2)
Torrentfreak has the screenshots. (Score:5, Informative)
From the screenshots:
If you want my opinion, it was an inside job. The RIAA got so jealous over they content that they decided to delete it than share it
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wow (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:wow (Score:5, Funny)
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Obligatory Nelson quote (Score:4, Funny)
Slashdotting (Score:5, Funny)
Sigh.... missed opportunity (Score:5, Insightful)
But if you are going to do something like this, then have a little panache.
For example, you could upload a few Mp3's with links to download them from the site.
Or upload some key quotes "Copyright should be good for forever less one day".
Or upload Jefferson's statements on copyright.
ah well...
I would prefer (Score:1, Funny)
RIAA Site (Score:1)
This is not good (Score:4, Insightful)
Screenshots of the Hack (Score:1)
I slapped as many of the screenshots I could find together. I'll try to update. Either way, here's the hack...
Velcroman98.googlepages.com/riaa/ [slashdot.org]
Oops... (Score:2, Funny)
All I have to say is.... (Score:1)
RIAA: 0
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! Hackers!!!!!!!!
Ojectivity (Score:1)
Whether by ignorance or lack of attention to detail, the RIAA left a security hole big enough to drive a truck through. Someone figured out where the hole was and then posted instructions on how to drive the truck. It was only a matter of time before someone jumped into the drivers seat. While my understanding of SQL isn't exactly at a mastery level, it seems to me that this exploit could have been easily avoided. So, as a system admin, I again feel no sympathy.
Having said that, this is/was illegal. Those who helped deface the RIAA website have done nothing more than stoop to the level that the RIAA has made its home in for some time now. The RIAA is not averse to using tricks, legal games, and outright dishonesty in pushing its agenda. How is hacking their website any better?
There are better and more legal ways to fight the greed that the RIAA represents. All hacking their website does is add another dimension to an already complicated problem. Way to go guys.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Wasted Opportunity (Score:2)
Others have noted that a splendid opportunity to do something really insidious to the RIAA site was wasted. It's worse than that. Even a brain-damaged idiot has enough sense to hire somebody to make the site 'way more difficult to hack next time.
So when somebody finds the next vulnerability, allow me to suggest that before they act, they view "The Yes Men vs The WTA". It's funny, it's subversive in the best sense of the word, and it shows what you can accomplish with a little imagination.
When you've got a bunch of asshats like the RIAA bent over a chair with their pants to their knees, letting them go with a warning verges on criminal irresponsibility.
Ya kno' I don't care about 'em anymo' (Score:2)
The only way to get them to listen is by NOT listening.
Mullah Omar was right but for all the wrong reasons.
Possible Trojan Injection? (Score:3, Interesting)
That took a while. (Score:1)
The RIAA must be one of the most hated computer related organizations on the planet.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people have attempted to hack the RIAA in one way or another. I mean c'mon, if you're into the "black-hat" thing and you're looking for a new target wouldn't the RIAA be a very obvious and satisfying target?
'I took the RIAA' down!, now that would be one hell of a e-peen enlarger.
Though the method used now was really really sloppy on their side. I can imagine their internal IT team must deal with a lot of attack attempts, so this being the first time, doesn't that make the RIAA pretty much bulletproof?
That being said...
HA!
I keep checking whether or not its still up (Score:2)